MCU Theory: The Mind Stone Is A Bigger Villain Than Thanos

Diply 4 Oct 2018

Here I was, thinking that Thanos was Marvel Studios' biggest villain, when really, the Mind Stone could be responsible for a lot of the mischief going on.

This idea was brought to my attention by Reddit user zaneman777, who came forth with some pretty interesting points that I'll share with you now.

The user writes, "Every time the Mind Stone is involved there is somebody who wants to kill everybody or at least a great deal of people."

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Well, that doesn't sound good, does it?

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"The power the stone has to control people (as seen in The Avengers with Barton) made me take another look at who was around the Stone," continues zaneman777.

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Y'all remember when Hawkeye became Loki's slave after the God of Mischief touched him with his Mind Stone-containing scepter?

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The user adds that the "Mind Stone was in Thanos possession before the events of The Avengers and gives the Stone to Loki."

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According to zaneman777, Thanos' earlier possession of the Stone may be what caused him to become the Mad Titan, at least in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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"Loki has the Mind Stone and wants a war on Earth. Thor the whole time is confused about his behavior and is calling him back to sanity," writes zaneman777.

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In other words, the user thinks that Thor is acting as if Loki's behavior has drastically changed, perhaps due to his possession of the Stone.

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"S.H.I.E.L.D. (Hydra) was in possession of the Stone in Winter Soldier (Age of Ultron shows this) and they hatch a plan to wipe out anyone who may be a threat," adds zaneman777.

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It's true that S.H.I.E.L.D. (and therefore HYDRA) had possession of Loki's scepter/the Mind Stone and were studying it at one point. Equally true is that HYDRA then hatched a plan to wipe out anyone who they felt was a threat to them.

However, whether these two things are directly linked (HYDRA seems evil enough to develop such a scheme without the influence of an Infinity Stone) is debatable.

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But possibly the best argument for the Mind Stone's ability to corrupt is Ultron.

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You know, Ultron, the AI peacekeeping program-turned-murder-bot, who just so happens to have been created with decrypted code from the Mind Stone?

Yeah, he's a pretty good reason to be suspicious of the Mind Stone.

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Although, you could also argue that Vision, an AI bot with the Mind Stone literally embedded in his forehead, is one of the most morally sound characters in the MCU.

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That huge fact doesn't really play into the idea that the Mind Stone is evil. But wait, there's still more.

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Our Reddit theorist writes, "In Infinity War [Thanos' minions] had weapons that disabled the Stone's ability to allow Vision to phase and he seemed weaken the whole movie."

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Correct. After Corvus Glaive used his staff to stab Vision, the Avenger was weakened for the rest of the film, which included the inability to use his phasing powers.

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"My theory is that the Mind Stone is alive," writes zaneman777.

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The Redditor continues, "Red skull mentioned the Soul Stone was wiser then the others supports that the other stones have sapience."

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According to zaneman777, the Mind Stone can see the future, and saw its own forthcoming destruction.

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To combat this, the Redditor says that the Stone "set Thanos on the whole quest for the Gauntlet and killing off half the universe was just to reverse time and save it from destruction."

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Well, not exactly reverse time, but buy itself more time.

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Either that, "or it just hates life," says zaneman777 — an easy explanation for anything deemed evil, but perhaps not for a celestial object based around the mind, which is the essence of life.

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"The final proof that I want to show is a scene in The Avengers when everyone is fighting," writes the Redditor.

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According to zaneman777, the scene makes it clear that the scepter/Mind Stone is corrupting the team.

In fact, while holding the scepter, Bruce Banner starts to get angry, and the other Avengers explicitly tell him to put the object down. Only then does he calm down.

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And let's not forget the bickering match that happens between Steve Rogers and Tony Stark just moments after.

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Sure, you'd expect Stark to be an agitator, but it seems out of character for Rogers to aggressively taunt someone when there are more important, world-saving matters at hand.

Perhaps the presence of the Mind Stone is impacting the Avengers' behavior for the worst.

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One more point from zaneman777: "When Thor comes to charge Vision in AOU, he says that he had a vision and at the center of all of it is that and he points at the Mind Stone."

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Here are Thor's exact words: "I've had a vision: a whirlpool that sucks in all hope of life, and at its center is that."

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So yes, there is definitely some spooky foreshadowing happening in that scene. In fact, Thor may have predicted the events of Infinity War.

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Ultimately, here's what you need to ask yourself: Do you trust the Mind Stone?

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If the answer is "Ummm..." then you can't entirely shoot down this theory, now can you?

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